welcome back everybody. we have two big stories for you tonight, the suspect in the texas massacre is in custody. we'll have more on that in a second. and in washington, the rumblings are getting louder, with the u.s. could default on our debt in less than a month. we have that panel of great reporters here for us to bring us the latest on this, and what they're working on for tomorrow. so, we have byron fox, danny freeman, -- and paula reid. okay, omar, you have an oak

date on our breaking news tonight, the suspect in a horrible texas massacre is now in custody. what have you learned? >> francisco oropesa, he was on the run, of course, after being sussex to speculative killing five people, including a nine-year-old. after what wasn't really a dispute, but seemed to be one family saying, hey, do you mind shooting your gun on the other side of the house because we have a baby in their. trying to sleep. they tracked him down, they actually found him in the town called cut and shoot, texas, less than 20 miles from cleveland, texas. which was where this shooting happened. it's came from a tip to the public, where the fbi says tip from a public came in at 5:15 pm, at 6:30 pm, they had actually apprehended him, take a listen to officials on how they found the suspect. >> he was caught hiding in a closet, underneath some laundry. they effectively made the arrests, he is uninjured.

he is currently being taken to my facility in cold springs. somebody got a tip, dps cid, u.s. marshals, fbi, we had a tech team they'll meandered over there, and found that tip to be true. >> we're extremely happy, the citizen had the courage and the bravery to call in that hip. >> you know it's interesting, where we are just talking about this last night, at that point what we knew was that they had no significant leads. and you see what a difference 24 hours makes, the way they were describing it in that press conference, it wasn't necessarily a pattern of tips coming in, it really was one tip that sealed the deal. essentially. as you heard, the fbi assistant special agent in charge for houston say, they think that brave person for risking a little bit of their safety to try and get this guy.

>> all it takes is one tip, it sounds like that tipster will get $80,000. that's where the sheriff is saying. >> yes. >> that he was open. >> okay now what happens to the suspect? >> at this point, you heard a little bit the sheriff, he is in custody, he's facing at least five charges of murder. he's being held and $5 million bond. we knew from sources, he had been deported four times before. there is some investigation going into there as well. there were some questions to, because of potential immigration status, how he could've acquired the weapon. and the sheriff was asked about that. he said, look, i'm only gonna speak from conjecture, all you have to do is buy from someone else on the street. >> guys, are they we have new video right now coming into us tonight into our newsroom of the suspect, let's show what it says, i'm told it shows him being detained. i assume that means captured? because he has been detained in the past, he was also arrested for a dwi years ago. it looks like this looks to me

like from tonight. this is tonight, it's hard to see, at that distance. >> it is hard to see, but we do know it was a multi jurisdictional operation here where u.s. marshals, the fbi, local police, that's why you may not see marked vehicles, you would see trucks or vans that they would typically use here. we are still trying to confirm what the relationship of this home was to the suspect. again, not found too far away, found inside a home, hiding under some clothes. presumably, he was able to get in somehow. authorities don't say there's anybody else injured here. it doesn't seem like he overpowered someone to get inside. >> this video shows he was arrested, as they, say without incident, meaning, he did not fight back. he wasn't armed under a pile of clothing when they found him. you can see that he's handcuffed here and being led

to a core. so, thank goodness for that. it was safe to assume he was armed and dangerous after what he had done to that family. this, by the way, this video i'm told, it was taken by a neighborhood -- and then heard helicopters overhead. and wondered what the commotion was. that's where we can see the suspect a little bit more clearly. and the marshals in fleck jackets. putting him into the vehicle. >> it is amazing, you rarely hear that no one is injured when apprehending a suspect, a potential mass shooting like this. it's incredible, like you said, no one was hurt. he is in handcuffs right now. in the back of a law enforcement vehicle. >> yeah, it's amazing, it took them a little more than an hour, they got the tip at 5:15, and they arrested him at 6:30 and obviously, i don't know, he wasn't expecting it, he was

where he thought he was gonna be hiding under a pile of clothing. so, that's great. >> listening to our colleague ed lavandera, who is down there on the scene, was at that press conference, he said he'd been in contact with some of the surviving family members from this. in some ways, they are glad that this man has been caught. also, something that authorities had brought up as well. they hope it brings at least some sort of peace but when you consider what they're actually dealing with, having lost so many of their loved ones in the flash -- of an eye, over seemingly no real provocation. i'm sure it's some comfort, i can't imagine it's going to do anything to bring back those loved ones. and help them slip them back at night in the near future. >> obviously, we will stay on this as we get more video. and more details about that arrest. meanwhile, let's talk with lauren about this fight over the debt limit, is it getting farther apart tonight somehow? >> well, i think as john used

to say, it always gets darker before it's pitch black. and that is where we're at right now with this debt ceiling negotiation. i think, in part, it's because we have the speaker of the house, that is of the country right now, this big meeting is expected to happen next tuesday. so that gives both sides a little bit of time to flex their political muscle. that's exactly what they're doing. you heard from chuck schumer earlier today, saying, he is in the same place. he does not think there should be negotiation over increasing the debt ceiling, saying, if they want to have a discussion about spending down the road, they totally are willing to do that. that is where things stand at the moment, you also saw house democrats trying to take some steps to try and put themselves in a position where if you get up to the ex day you would have what is known as a discharge petition, which means they could force a vote on the floor, that does require a handful of republicans to go along with that effort, so far, all of the

moderate republicans that are colleagues on the hill have been talking to have said absolutely not, they are not gonna help that. that is the emergency back door opportunity that already there saying no way. >> senator schumer says they should not negotiate on future budget issues. in the past, did they negotiate, when president obama was president, they negotiate on this? >> the argument has been, they did not negotiate on the actual increase of the debt ceiling itself. yes, there was always negotiations over the appropriations process that is how we fund the government, year after year. but they are two separate issues, is the argument that democrats are making over and over again. and republicans are arguing yeah, maybe that's the case, but the issue here is that republicans are in control of the house, and you do have to negotiate if you have divided government. i think that both sides are digging in right now hopefully we start to see some of that break next tuesday. >> you've talked about this before, obviously, it's a very slim majority in the house side

for republicans. so, when kevin mccarthy goes into this meeting with president biden and the other leadership, it's not about cooler heads prevailing in that meeting, it's okay, cooler heads may prevail there, but then it's a whole bunch of other cooler heads within the republican majority in the house that have to essentially, coalesce around what mccarthy is able to get out of that meeting. am i reading that correct? >> absolutely, i would also sort of push back on this idea that a resolution is gonna come out of one meeting. it's gonna be a weeks long negotiation. there aren't that many days to actually negotiate. when you look at the congressional calendar, the house and the senate are only both in session eight days over the next couple of weeks. you also have the president going out of the country. you know, the president can pick up the phone and negotiate anywhere that he is, and that is the argument that the white house has made but it just gives you a sense that this deadline is not only coming, but it's coming when not all the players are going to be in

the boardroom having a discussion about this. >> why can't they start earlier? they have phones, we've all been on zoom meetings, why not get it underway? i get you're traveling, we work from home why can't they? >> well i think that congress operates under deadlines. this is part of why getting the extra yesterday was so critical to getting these negotiations rolling. because congress just doesn't operate well when they don't know when the deadline is. they're kind of a journalist in that way. they operate well when they know that there's a breaking deadline they have to me that's exactly what you're starting to see. i think next week is gonna be so crucial, even though, i do not expected resolution out of that meeting on tuesday. >> story can i ask again, to your point, if they're not going to negotiate in earnest until tuesday are we just gonna keep seeing chest beating every single day up till next week? we have a whole week of this, right? >> yeah, really, we've had months of this. the president and the house

speaker myth about 90 days ago now. that gives you a sense of how long this is actually been going on, both sides have been dug in. i think the reality is, there's gonna be start to be real impact on people. on the economy. >> but at that start june 1st, or before? that >> i think it starts before. that's what we saw on the last debt ceiling showdown. what started to move lawmakers when the market started to move. that didn't happen because they went over the cliff, it happened because they were getting dangerously close to going over the cliff. so, expected that could happen soon the question of how this impacts when the treasury department can make payments i mean, that happens after you breach that deadline. it could have an impact on real people it could have an impact on government workers it could have an impact on when you get your social security check. you might not get it on time. we don't know what the treasury department would prioritize our best clues are to look back to 2011 and the plans that they started putting together when they started getting worried

that congress was going to go over this cliff. that does give us a sense of this has a real impact on what bills the government could pay. >> all right can you come back later until this one to start panicking? >> can you just watch. >> they want to panic every night, just tell me what i need to start panicking. >> all you know. >> thank you very. much stay with us, everybody, next, danny's got the story of a muslim mayor who was invited to the white house then barred by the secret service half hour before the event. danny's gonna explain what's going on. veteran, son, dad. -it's time to get up. -no. hair stylistst and cheerleader. so adding a “student” title might feel overwhelming. what if a school could be there for all of you? career, family, finances and mental health. it's coming along. well, it can. national university. supporting the whole you.

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the white house. dan freeman is following this story. so denny, you spoke to the mayor today. what is happening here? >> yes, that's right, there are a couple of different things happening right here. and the main takeaway is that we are basically at a standstill with the mayor. members of the new jersey muslim community and, right now, the white house and the secret service. so, just a kind of recap, we're talking about mayor mohammed cola. the mayor of prospect park new jersey. the biden administration it biden number of muslim americans, faith leaders and also elected officials to the white house to mark the end of ramadan. 30 minutes before that was about to kick off, the mayor said that he got a phone call from a staffer at the white house, from the social group. and that staffer told him secret services flak to, you are not allowed to come to this event. and the muslim advocates in new jersey they were very upset about that. the mayor of course was very upset about that and that is where we are today. they call it racial profiling.

they say that this is an example of another example of abuse of power by the federal government against folks of arab the fence, muslim americans and that's really where we are at this point. the white house say that they are not seeing anything as to why they made this decision. >> and then, john miller, our law enforcement had some interviews about this with other law enforcement. >> that's right, john miller, cnn he said that multiple law enforcement told him that the mayor had been flagged for some concerning context over the course of a federal law enforcement counterterrorism investigation. >> what does that mean? >> that is a little unclear at the moment, and i think that that will speak to the larger point of what it means to be on. they watch what it means to be on this list. i want to play sound from the mayor, we asked him about this, today, at the press conference. take a listen to what he said. >> our court issued today is that there is a secret list, that everyone knows it existed

due to the january 26 leak. but our government continues to use it, despite it being discriminatory and ruled illegal by a federal judge. this has inconvenienced, harassed and humiliated me and my family ever since every time we went through an airport. >> so, you could see clearly frustrated and, for the mayor, he feels that this is just one out of a number of events that happened over the past several years where he feels persecuted by, what he believes is the presence on this watchlist. >> so, he knows he was not allowed in the white house, are reporting indicates that he was on this list, but there's no indication from the secret service or the white house that is why he was rejected. is that correct? >> that's right. and the challenges that we're in the bit of a sticky spot. because, again, the white house, they don't want to take any questions about this. they continue to refer all questions to the secret service. and the secret service, they

said that we regret that there may have been any inconvenience to the mayor in this particular -- telling him 30 minutes before, you're not allowed to comment. but this, we're not gonna disclose any information about security procedures and what goes into. it's out, they have not confirmed the list itself was why we said you can't commit. >> that's a pretty big leap, a pretty big accusation for him to make for someone who's gone in and out of white house gate. we, know the secret service has brought latitude about who comes inside and outside that premises but, with that being said, this idea of a watchlist, hugely problematic in terms of the constitutional protection that you are entitled to in this country. it's overly big. it's not how you get on it, it's not clear how you get off of it so it seems like there's a complication of two separate issues. we don't have a constitutional right to be inside the white house. but, it probably would be good for him to, again, continue to bring attention to the issue of the watchlist and how people get on it and stay on it and then our-limited potentially in their trouble an opportunity.

>> well, absolutely what he the mayor and the center for american islamic relations, caring jersey, they actually presented the reporters who are on the press conference today with, what they call, a redacted version of the list showing the yours full name and his birthday. saying, this is evidence that we believe that he has been flagged and they're connecting the dots. this is, perhaps, the reason he was not allowed into this event. but, to your point, we do not have -- we have not had that confirmation specifically just yet. >> a great way to bring attention to the watch list. i think most people forgot about the washed-less. >> unless you're on. it >> he has, then you never. forget >> folks in this community, they have not forgotten. because it's been persecution, stories are not going away. >> bring it back into the consciousness, maybe we could try to get some of that system reform. so, if you do find yourself on it, and you don't believe you should be, you could maybe get yourself off of. it >> right, but there is no process. >> none whatsoever. >> there is no process to get yourself off it. that seems [inaudible]

frankly, that it's just never ending until you're just flagged somehow. >> even the mayor doesn't know how he got on it in the first place, right? he was speculating a few different things early today that he actually said during the press conference that, at one point, he had gone to syria. and the fbi had actually asked him to be an informant, and he declined that. and he said, that, sometimes it is a way to get you on that watchlist. but, again, it's hard to know why your knee appears there in the first place. and, like you said, there's no online form you could fill out to then take yourself off with that or make them feel. >> it retaliatory, if you declined to be an informant. what can be dangerous. not only for you, but potentially for your family for there to be repercussions. a lot of huge constitutional questions. >> that some of the arguments they would need. >> this issue also came up in the broader debate on capitol hill, where there had been some idea that perhaps, one way to limit gun ownership would be if you are on some kind of watch list. and, interestingly, this became

an issue where some democrats and republicans were saying, well, actually, we don't know that much about the watch list to begin with. and it's not clear how someone gets on and off of it. and that might actually be problematic in terms of a broader discussion about who can buy guns in this country and who can't. >> it sounds like one of those knee jerking things, of course somebody on a watch list should know. until you realize that people are mistakingly on a watch list or on their forever. >> karen said, there could be as many as well over 1 million people on some of these list. how do you go through every single name and make sure that's correct? it's challenging. there's a couple of different challenges. especially when it's kind of hidden from the public eye. >> all right, thank you for alerting us to all of. this meanwhile, dramatic testimony. from a friend of e. jean carroll in the rape and death of donald trump today. paul is following the close story with, us and telling us where the trial is headed, now.

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it was a dramatic day of testimony in the civil rape and defamation trial against former president trump. two witnesses, testifying against e. jean carroll, a longtime friend of carole described a phone call that she received moments after trump allegedly attacked carroll in a department store dress room in the mid 1990s. a second witness testified that donald trump sexually assaulted her on an airplane in the late 1970s. donald trump denies any wrongdoing. okay, so paula, you are in the courtroom today, tell us what you saw, what was it like? >> so, today was all about

bringing forth witnesses who could cooperate e. jean carroll's testimony. she's been testifying -- she testified for a lawyers and was also cross-examined by trump attorneys. the first witness, who you just referenced, she is significant because she presents a contemporaneous recollection of this alleged assault. she said that she was called by carl, a short time after this alleged assault, she describes her friend on the phone as hyper ventilating, being emotional. and, burn box said that when i heard what the top and, it was clear to me that this was a rape. she said, at this time, carroll preferred to frame this as a fight or a tussle. she wasn't ready to say that word, rape. now, this is significant, because we're talking about allegations that are approximately 30 years old. there is no eyewitness testimony. but, when you have something like this, when you have a contemporaneous account from someone who says, yes, i've heard about it shortly after, that's really a boost to carl's case. but defense attorneys

cross-examined her, pointed to a lot of post that she's made, to make it. there she is not a fan of. trump, that the other witness, among the other witnesses we've heard from today, jessica leads. she alleges that trump groped her, kissed her on a flight back in the 70s. she said she was sitting in coach, she was upgraded first class, sat next to him and then he had tried this. she said, she got out of her seat after a short period of time, didn't tell anyone, went to the back of the plane, she said no one helped or. but, the significance of her testimony as part of an effort to establish that this is a pattern. what e. jean carroll said happened is a pattern. now, we've all heard the access hollywood tape. so e. jean carroll's lawyers hope that they hear her stories like just echo leads, which trump has denied, and see a pattern. and all of this will help boost her chances of winning this case. >> i think we have some sound what jessica leads outside of the court today. let's listen to that. >> i would like to express my support for e. jean carroll with her suit against trump.

her story rings true to me. i also would like to encourage anyone who has suffered sexual aggression to know they are not alone. and they could speak up. >> what was it like testifying today? >> it's nerve-racking. >> it's not fun. it's not fun. and i hope i never have to tell the story again. >> thank you. >> what are the questions that keep coming, up both for e. jean carroll and for miss leads, why didn't you say anything? why didn't to report? and i really felt, as a millennial woman, a generational divide, leads said look at that time, men got a late with a. lot e. jean carroll has also talked about the shame -- even though she subsequently advised women in her column to report assault. so, it definitely feels like metoo has changed the ability a lot of people have to talk about this really. and, just thinking about what life was like for them.

it's something that's really taken away from the trial. >> it also struck me that when she called her friend, her friend tells her that was rape. and she really doesn't want to go there. she does not want to have that conversation. and to me, that kind of struck as very much of that time where she wanted to move on, she did not want to continue talking about it. but, like you said, in a cross examination, the question becomes, why didn't you reported. why didn't you tell more people. and i think that that is why the cross-examination is tough. >> and, this friend told her -- her advice was accurate for telling her not to go to the police. or was it the one who told her not to go to the police? >> she was the one who said she should go to the police. and e. jean carroll cell, while i felt a. shame now, she did not report this but then subsequently advised other people to report, through her advice column. it's unclear, i was watching the jury yesterday, when he was

bringing this, up the trump defense attorney. just to see how they responded. they were all very attentive. but, it's really unclear to me what they made of. that >> because there were two friends. one who said he'll bury you. and one who said that you need to go to the police. >> yes, and at the time, he was a very famous real estate agent. obviously well-known in social circles but he was not at that time a politician. >> on the cross-examination part, you are seeing that defense attorneys were bringing up the pulse they had made where clearly she was not a fan of trump. i mean you have that on one side, but of course a very powerful accounting of being on the phone with e. jean carroll after this happened. how do you see those two stacking up against the jury of folks who some are probably wondering what you just alluded to? why now? >> i really do think that the contemporaneous recollection. help the reason she's able to bring this fourth, well after the statute of limitation is because a window was opened to allow people to bring these kinds of allegations forward.

we've seen this in several states, related to sex kimes, sexual abuse, you can bring forward things that have already passed the statute of limitation. the thing, is it's hard to get on evidence. so, i have a contemporaneous recollection like this. it's very powerful. but in terms of the facebook post, let me tell you, everything you say, on facebook or social media -- can and will be used against you, even your friends, in a court of law. a number of time they pulled out facebook post, even the one yesterday asking if people would have sex with donald trump for $17, they thought they were just making a political joke but it comes back to haunt you. >> so, very quickly, what's gonna happen tomorrow? >> over the next few days, we expect e. jean carroll's lawyers to wrap up their case, than the former president trump's lawyers will be able to present their defense. we only expected those to be one witness. so, this could, because there's usually no court on friday, this could go to the jury as soon as friday. >> who's the witness? >> we have one witness. he's an expert. he could raise -- but their plan is to have one

expert testify remotely, and that's expected to extend their case. the former president will not testify, we did not expect that he would. but they can bring that outside of court. let me tell, you the criminal defense attorney in other cases, they were really worried about what could happen if they got on that stand for his other criminal cases. >> all right. we'll be watching. thank you very much for the update on all of that. okay, now why the word ladies in an email has led to a second resignation of a school committee member in one district in massachusetts. omar's gonna explain with what's going on and what's wrong with ladies. ♪ ♪ ♪ get 2.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on an xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial. ♪

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using the term ladies. a second school committee member in eastampton massachusetts has resigned in the wake of a superintendent search gone wrong. at the end of march, you may remember us reporting, the school search committee offered the job to -- we interviewed, and he's a superintendent from another district. but then they rescinded the offer because, he addressed committee members as ladies in an email. they say that he was told the world ladies is a micro aggression. now, committee member, lauren garcia says the fact that you could say madam chair but not ladies, the whole thing is ridiculous. omar jimenez has been following the story for us. i am so glad you're here to explain this. >> yes, so, look, this is really like a lot of dinner table talk over terms that are actually being used. because this is a community outside of springfield

massachusetts, where, as you said, it started with a guy named doctor vito perrone, he was offered the superintendent job. and he basically gotten the job. but, now it's time to negotiate out of the contract. so he sends the head of the school committee and the executive assistant an email, starting it off with ladies. and then lays out, essentially his request for vacation days, sick days, that type of deal. he didn't think anything of it. well, they received that and they, again, not only said it was a microaggressions but as the school committee share that it was in many ways, insulting. because they did not think that he should be addressing people who he would be working with in a professional setting in such a casual manner. and they also said that it was because of the amount of days he was requesting off. >> right, so this is what confuses me. was the ladies thing a pretext for the fact that they did not want to negotiate his amount of time off. do we have an answer to that? >> that's the major question. that's the central question.

here by the way, using the term negotiate, he said we never got to negotiate. because i just kind of put forward my request. there was an issue, we could've worked that out. but then the offer was rescinded. so, fast forward to this. in another superintendent candidate that withdrew her candidacy. fast forward here, lloyd garcia is a school committee member who has been going through all of this. dealing with the votes. she voted for perrone in the beginning. she said that she was forwarded the email but said, ladies, and she did not even clock. that she said, why are they forwarding that about the vacation days? she found out later on that it may have been the major reason for it. she threw france. she said, this is ridiculous. and, a lot of people in the community were also coming to his defense as well seeing what are we doing. >> the latest offensive -- >> i've never been offended by the term ladies. >> i feel like there's a lot of other microaggressions that

could have been in a professional setting. >> well, yeah, and the executive assistant he was one of the original people addressed in the email. look, everybody, i'm not offended by the word ladies and even though she has a job she goes but i respect the opinion of anyone who may be offended by the term yes. but i think that the woman who did take umbrage at being called ladies wanted it to be like miss camerota wanted to be just by her name. >> it is a very specific preference, right? it shouldn't undermine some candidacy for a job at a time when it's very difficult to find higher education professionals. do you guys remember dimitri martin? he had a great bit about the word ladies. he said you can make anything sound inappropriate by just adding ladies. it's like, want some pizza,

ladies? >> and then tonight, ladies, that is what i think of when i think of ladies being inappropriate, with this conduct. even the idea of microaggressions feels absurd, and then the idea that this is how the school makes me concerned about what these kids are learning about what is and isn't appropriate and the extent of which they're feeling about this should dictate someone else's life. >> and, the second school committee who committee member who resigned basically that was her complain about this process. she said that it's an embarrassment that this process has become what it is that here they are now a month later from when they believe they were going to have a superintendent and it's because of this reason. and another issue here that, again, there's been a lot of little pieces in the east community that this was decided to rescind the offer in the executive session of a school committee meeting. so some of them are good, we

won into executive session, and you didn't say the reason you are going into this to consider the actual job. so, now open meeting complaint has been filed with the state from another form or committee member while the school committee chair has said, well, we just said we were going to go in there, talk about strategies on negotiation. >> well, -- >> well they don't. >> they hired someone? >> basically they are replacing this outgoing super intendant, but what they're going to have to do now is they decided to go to the state, essentially the state will help them find an in superintendent until they could then find someone else to qualify and go through the real process. >> this is really bringing me back to local reporting days, when i would cover school board meetings until midnight, opening meeting law, discussion about, that i think it's really remarkable that a surge that really is -- because of a conversation about

email language and now i'm going to think very, very hard about how i address everyone. >> you're talking about subtext, right? >> local schools, politics, some of the fiercest most intense that's out there. >> you have to go and speak the language apparently. >> the meetings in mask to chooses? >> thank you, please give us an update. >> of, course i will continue to follow. >> all right, thank you all very, much up next, on the lookout, our reporters are going to tell us they are looking out for on the horizon. for your most brilliant smile, crest has you covered. ♪ (laughing) nice smile, brad. nice! thanks? crest 3d white. 100% more stain removal.

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panel of reporters to tell us what stories they're keeping an eye on. we call it, on the lookout. first, i will be on the lookout for reaction to this news, we just got into our newsroom tonight. this is a newly-revealed text message. in, it tucker carlson makes strange and racist comments. and we believe that this is the comment, according to the new york times that, in part, led to his being fired by fox. so, in this text, he said he found himself briefly rooting for a mob of trump supporters to kill a person. this is according to, again, this newly-published report, new york times, carlson wrote this in january of 2021. possibly the day right after the insurrection. this was a text message to a producer. quote, a couple of weeks ago, i was watching video of people fighting in the street in washington. a group of trump guys supported

-- and started pounding the living shut out of him. it was three against one, at least, jumping a guy like that is dishonourable, obviously. it is not how white men fight. yet, suddenly, i found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they had hit him harder, killed him. i really wanted them to hurt the kid. i can taste it. then, somewhere, deep in my brain an alarm went off. this isn't good for me. i'm becoming something i don't want to be. the antifa creep is a human being. much as i despise what he says and does, as much as i'm sure i hate him personally, if i knew him, i shouldn't gloat over his suffering. i should be bothered by it. i should remember that somewhere, somebody probably loves this kid and could be crushed if he was killed. i don't care about those things. if i don't care about those things, if i reduced people to their politics, how i'm i better than his? the text message, which was included in the redacted port

filing dominion voting systems case was swept up in discovery. as part of the voting machine company defamation lawsuit against fox. this, again, all according to new york times. times reports that that text message as a board of directors and played a role in firing last month. it's too bad tucker doesn't realize these things before he says them. too bad he doesn't realize people's humanity. first! okay, let's go to our on the lookout segment guys. [laughter] lauren, tell us what we're looking at in front of us. >> there is a meeting tomorrow, with joe manchin and julie su who is the nominee for labor secretary for the biden administration. she is still waiting to hear if three democrats, joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, jon tester are going to support her on the floor she passed out of committee last week but this meeting is really critical to understanding whether or not this nominee is going to be able to move forward and,

obviously, senator diane still out the numbers are really close here. there's a possibility that this nominee could be in serious trouble so we're gonna be watching closely for the tea leaves that come out of that meeting tomorrow. >> excellent, denny? >> as our philadelphia correspondent here at cnn, i'm working forward to two weeks from today the home, election day in pennsylvania, the pennsylvania primaries coming up, may 16th. the last day the vote was yesterday, but there still time to get your absentee ballot, your mail-in ballot. a lot of big races for the philadelphia, mayor and supreme court, and a lot of big places in the western part of the state. that's what i'm looking forward to. this home stretch of that election system. >> that is why go our pennsylvania correspondent for us. >> right. >> exactly. >> excellent. >> no mention as mvp? well >> if we must. >> mvp. no, what i'm keeping an eye on is actually a case of déjà vu because, a year ago, may of last year, we are covering the stories out to tolson oklahoma,

the last three living survivors with the tulsa race massacre are basically going to reparations lawsuit of the mental and physical damage inflicted on them over the years. and, so last may, they cleared this major hurdle to try and actually move forward to trial on this. well, a year later, there's been delays, delays, and delays and now they are having to go through another motion to dismiss a year later. which is going to be next week on one of the survivors, 109th birthday. all three of the survivors are over 100. their defense has said, i guess, essentially they're not in defense here but they are trying to get reparations. they said that the city is trying to whip them out. so, we're going to be watching to see if this is actually the hurdle that allows them to go through the trouble. >> another trump case, the criminal case, the first time it's ever been charged. his lawyers, and prosecutors will be in court on thursday to argue over how much the former president can actually discuss.

the evidence in that case, it's really just a constitutional question. because, he obviously has a first amendment right. he's also a candidate for the presidency. but, on the other hand, he rails against the prosecutors. he brings threats upon the judge. so, they have to balance the extent to which they can share details about this case. i think it's a really interesting constitutional question ahead of who's going to be a long process for that criminal case. >> thank you all. really appreciate you guys being here tonight. and, tomorrow, on cnn this morning, new development in the anna walsh case. what new reporting reveals about an alleged affair. and a mysterious note sent days after she went missing. that starts at 6 am eastern, tune into that. thank you so much everyone for watching us tonight. our coverage continues, now.

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